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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186769967" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186769967">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey, I've been prototyping on a few things for the Rust website, and I have a prototype I'd like people to have a look at. Note What's shown here is not promised to be go on the actual website, or even look similar if it does. It's just a UI/UX prototype. <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NJ_rsI5gClFF1Oe8oHEPeS55HbcNxJ1E?usp=sharing" target="_blank" title="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NJ_rsI5gClFF1Oe8oHEPeS55HbcNxJ1E?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NJ_rsI5gClFF1Oe8oHEPeS55HbcNxJ1E?usp=sharing</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186770290" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186770290">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:39)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Well a search bar doesn't imply it's a dynamic web application. The search by is inspired by Dart that has a Google custom search for all of their websites.</p>
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<p>I don't think a google custom search is the best approach tbh if we want to do search</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186770327" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186770327">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e. for crates we'd want to use crates.io's own ranking system, and display <a href="http://docs.rs" target="_blank" title="http://docs.rs">docs.rs</a> links as part of the crate result</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186770457" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186770457">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>or other tweaks specific to our ecosystem</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186770495" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186770495">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>adding a search bar just because we want one is not a good idea imo</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186770570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186770570">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we want to add it, it should be something people will look for because it provides a better experience than the other search engines</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186770644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186770644">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:43)</a>:</h4>
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<p>My expectation on the nightly button was just a different Rustup install command that installs nightly by default.</p>
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<p>do we actually want to emphasize nightly as much as stable?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186770649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186770649">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well for me, when we're talking about new features. It's not really about what's ideal, it's about what's easily maintainable. I don't agree that if we have search it has to be better, it just has to work.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186770769" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186770769">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>but then why would users use it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186770906" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186770906">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Because it's there. When you're a new user to Rust and you don't know about <a href="http://crates.io" target="_blank" title="http://crates.io">crates.io</a>, <a href="http://docs.rs" target="_blank" title="http://docs.rs">docs.rs</a>, or forge for example. This would let you search all of that information from <a href="http://rust-lang.org" target="_blank" title="http://rust-lang.org">rust-lang.org</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186771062" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186771062">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>It doesn't need to have the best ranking algorithm, it just has to give you the information you want. I'm of course not against having a custom ranking, it would just depend on the impact of the implementation and maintenance.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186771127" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186771127">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>There's also no reason it can't be improved over time.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186771281" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186771281">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>(users shouldn't care about the forge imo)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186771602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186771602">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:56)</a>:</h4>
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<p>When you're a new user to Rust and you don't know about <a href="http://crates.io" target="_blank" title="http://crates.io">crates.io</a>, <a href="http://docs.rs" target="_blank" title="http://docs.rs">docs.rs</a>, or forge for example. This would let you search all of that information from <a href="http://rust-lang.org" target="_blank" title="http://rust-lang.org">rust-lang.org</a></p>
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<p>If the point of the search bar is to help new users discover our ecosystem, I think a normal page explaining the resources available is better than hoping they search for the right thing and google's algorithm points them to the right page</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186771660" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186771660">(Jan 28 2020 at 10:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>something like an "ecosystem" page with rows for <a href="http://crates.io" target="_blank" title="http://crates.io">crates.io</a> (and maybe a search bar for crates that points to crates.io's own search?), <a href="http://docs.rs" target="_blank" title="http://docs.rs">docs.rs</a> ("we build documentation for all the crates for free, check it out on <a href="http://docs.rs" target="_blank" title="http://docs.rs">docs.rs</a>")...</p>



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<p>If the point of the search bar is to help new users discover our ecosystem, I think a normal page explaining the resources available is better than hoping they search for the right thing and google's algorithm points them to the right page</p>
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<p>We already have pages for this. A search is complimentary, not a replacement for those pages.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186772096" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186772096">(Jan 28 2020 at 11:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it would just confuse users</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186772275" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186772275">(Jan 28 2020 at 11:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> I think you're missing the forest for the trees. It's a prototype, you can assume it's a perfect search bar. <em>If</em> this is implemented then we can test how useful the results it provides are.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186772558" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186772558">(Jan 28 2020 at 11:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I still don't feel like it's something we need on the main website</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186772562" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186772562">(Jan 28 2020 at 11:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>especially with such a prominent UI</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186772574" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> spacekookie <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186772574">(Jan 28 2020 at 11:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can't really give detailed feedback yet but at first glance I have to say I really like the design a lot better. It's much easier on the eyes and my autistic brain has less <em>internal screaming</em> when reading the sections <span aria-label="sweat smile" class="emoji emoji-1f605" role="img" title="sweat smile">:sweat_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186773670" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186773670">(Jan 28 2020 at 11:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> Well if you could add one piece of functionality above the fold, what would it be?</p>



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<p>(thinking, it'll take a while to reply)</p>



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<p><a href="/user_uploads/4715/dWIHSMDoYbP-vgsm-wc4XEUr/Screenshot-from-2020-01-28-13-16-40.png" target="_blank" title="Screenshot-from-2020-01-28-13-16-40.png">Screenshot-from-2020-01-28-13-16-40.png</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186776814" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186776814">(Jan 28 2020 at 12:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>very very very very rough mockup</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186777054" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186777054">(Jan 28 2020 at 12:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186777726" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186777726">(Jan 28 2020 at 12:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure about the extra links, I really like the small one line of the latest post though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Website%20Prototype/near/186818776" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Website.20Prototype.html#186818776">(Jan 28 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>A search box that lets you search the website with google or duckduckgo is a friendly bonus to have and can be done with a static site. It should be put at the top or bottom in the desktop display even if it's not shown right away or at all in a smaller mobile rendering</p>



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